{"id":58919,"date":"2020-01-18T11:30:00","date_gmt":"2020-01-18T11:30:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/counsellingtu.onpressidium.com\/?p=58919"},"modified":"2023-08-15T08:48:20","modified_gmt":"2023-08-15T07:48:20","slug":"counselling-suicidal-clients","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/counsellingtutor.com\/counselling-suicidal-clients\/","title":{"rendered":"137 \u2013 Counselling Suicidal Clients"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<a href=\"https:\/\/counsellingtutor.com\/counselling-suicidal-clients\" target=\"_self\" itemprop=\"url\" rel=\"noopener\">\n\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/counsellingtutor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/CT-Podcast-Ep137.jpeg\" alt=\"CT Podcast Ep137 featured image - Topics Discussed: Counselling suicidal clients; Taking a year out of your counselling course; Dealing with disagreements with colleagues\" itemprop=\"image\" height=\"350\" width=\"730\" title=\"CT Podcast Ep137 - Counselling Suicidal Clients\" onerror=\"this.style.display='none'\">\n\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t<h1>137 &#8211; Counselling Suicidal Clients<\/h1>\n\t<h2>Taking a Year out of Your Course &#8211; Dealing with Disagreements with Colleagues<\/h2>\n\t<div class=\"smart-track-player-container stp-color-006cb5-EEEEEE spp-stp-desktop\" data-uid=\"77b4ae1b\"><\/div><div class=\"spp-shsp-form spp-shsp-form-77b4ae1b\"><\/div>\n\t<a href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/gb\/podcast\/counselling-tutor\/id1080407675#\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/counsellingtutor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/12\/subscribe_itunes-button-small.jpg\" alt=\"subscribe_itunes button small\" width=\"144\" height=\"49\"><\/a>\n\t<p>In episode 137 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, Ken Kelly and Rory Lees-Oakes talk about counselling suicidal clients, or clients who express suicidal thoughts. &#8216;Check-In with CPCAB&#8217; then looks at what to do if you need to take a year out of your course. Finally, in &#8216;Practice Matters&#8217;, the presenters discuss dealing with disagreements with colleagues.<\/p>\n\t<div id=\"cbox-vODZZySnaq10cn4g\"><\/div>\n\t<hr>\n<p>&nbsp;* BACPAC practice management software for counsellors and psychotherapists is a sponsor of the Counselling Tutor Podcast.<\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/bac-pac.co.uk\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>Get a 30-day free trial of BACPAC and a 30% discount by using the discount code CT2020<\/em><\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<hr>\n\n\t<!--more-->\n\t<h2>Counselling Suicidal Clients (starts at 1.45 mins)<\/h2>\n\t<p>Rory opens this first segment, which focuses on counselling suicidal clients, by talking about the importance of language relating to suicide.<\/p>\n<p>The term &#8216;<em>committing<\/em>&#8216; suicide dates back to a time when suicide was against the law; as this is no longer so, it should not now be used.<\/p>\n<p>Also, the term suicidal &#8216;<em>ideation<\/em>&#8216; (thinking) sounds very clinical and is not therefore a good fit in the context of counselling.<\/p>\n<h4>Ken and Rory offer a number of tips on counselling suicidal clients, or working with clients who express suicidal thoughts:<\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li>Don&#8217;t panic: if the client is communicating about this, there is hope.<\/li>\n<li>Try to calmly explore the meaning of what they are saying together.<\/li>\n<li>In particular, consider how advanced this thinking is &#8211; e.g. has the client made a plan of how they would take their own life, and is there clear intent to actually do so?<\/li>\n<li>Look for other warning signs (e.g. giving away possessions, not making future plans etc.).<\/li>\n<li>Consider whether the client has any risk factors or behaviours, e.g. alcohol use or previous suicide attempts.<\/li>\n<li>Ensure you understand your agency&#8217;s policy and procedures on dealing with suicidal clients, including who at the agency to involve if the client seems to have serious intent to take their own life.<\/li>\n<li>Remember that the contract will have spelt out how the agency responds to disclosures of suicidal intent, including onward referral if need be.<\/li>\n<li>Record all your actions in your notes in a factual way, as evidence that you have followed policy and acted professionally.<\/li>\n<li>Make sure you&#8217;re well-educated on counselling suicidal clients &#8211; for example, you might like to look at the lecture by Dr Eoin Galavan in the <a href=\"https:\/\/student.counsellingtutor.com\/login\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Counselling Study Resource<\/a> (CSR).<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>In short, remember Rory&#8217;s maxim: hope for the best but prepare for the worst.<\/p>\n\t<h2>Check-In with CPCAB: Taking a Year out of Your Course (starts at 16.40 mins)<\/h2>\n\t<p>Rory talks to Heather Price (Senior Counselling Professional) about what to do if you need to take a year out in the middle of your level 4 diploma (or other qualification) course &#8211; for example if you have experienced a bereavement, relationship split or job loss.<\/p>\n<p>She offers tips on what to do if you are considering this; most importantly, talk to your tutor as soon as possible.<\/p>\n<p>For more information about CPCAB, please see <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cpcab.co.uk\/learners\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">its website<\/a>. CPCAB is the UK&#8217;s only awarding body run by counsellors for counsellors.<\/p>\n\t<h2>Dealing with Disagreements with Colleagues (starts at 29.30 mins)<\/h2>\n\t<p>It is natural sometimes to disagree with colleagues &#8211; but do remember that if you and a colleague see things differently, it doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean that either of you is wrong.<\/p>\n<p>The BACP&#8217;s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bacp.co.uk\/events-and-resources\/ethics-and-standards\/ethical-framework-for-the-counselling-professions\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>Ethical Framework for the Counselling Professions<\/em><\/a> gives us a <strong>duty of candour<\/strong>, meaning we have a responsibility to speak out if &#8211; having reflected carefully &#8211; we consider that a colleague is behaving in a way that puts clients at risk.<\/p>\n<p>First, you should discuss the matter at supervision to check that there really is a problem and that the issue does not in fact relate to your own process.<\/p>\n<p>There is also a useful tool in the <a href=\"https:\/\/student.counsellingtutor.com\/login\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">CSR<\/a>: an ethical problem-solving matrix that can help you work out the best way forward.<\/p>\n<p>Personal development in your training will have prepared you well to tackle such situations.<\/p>\n<p>You can download Rory&#8217;s handout (on points to consider if you find yourself disagreeing with a colleague) here, or access it through the <a href=\"https:\/\/counsellingtutor.com\/handouts-vault\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Handouts Vault<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/student.counsellingtutor.com\/login\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">CSR<\/a>.<\/p>\n\t\t<h3>Free Handout Download<\/h3>\t\t\n\t\t\t<p>Handling Disagreements with Colleagues<\/p>\n\t\t\t<a href=\"#cb21c813de\" target=\"_self\" role=\"button\" rel=\"noopener\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\tClick Here to Download Free Handout\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t<h2>Links and Resources<\/h2>\n\t<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/groups\/472203952972076\/?ref=bookmarks\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Counselling Tutor Facebook group<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/CounsellingStudyResource\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Counselling Tutor Facebook page<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/counsellingtutor.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Counselling Tutor website<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/student.counsellingtutor.com\/login\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Counselling Study Resource<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/bac-pac.co.uk\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">BACPAC<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/counsellingtutor.com\/cpcab\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">CPCAB<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/counsellingtutor.com\/handouts-vault\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Counselling Tutor Handouts Vault<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/counsellingtutor.com\/skillsbook\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>Basic Counselling Skills: A Student Guide<\/em><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/counsellingtutor.com\/rorys-new-book\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>Counselling Theory in Practice: A Student Guide<\/em><\/a><\/p>\n<hr>\n<em><strong>*Check in with CPCAB<\/strong><\/em> is proudly sponsored by CPCAB, the only awarding body run by counsellors for counsellors.\n&nbsp;\nTo learn more about CPCAB qualifications and to get more detailed information on today&#8217;s podcast topic, visit <a href=\"http:\/\/cpcab.co.uk\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/CPCAB.co.uk&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1567311629273000&amp;usg=AFQjCNH51cEhxiICBh9pv-Q4_lXOWTQ4WQ\">CPCAB.co.uk.<\/a>\n<hr>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>137 &#8211; 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