{"id":4512,"date":"2016-05-14T13:02:34","date_gmt":"2016-05-14T13:02:34","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/counsellingtu.onpressidium.com\/?p=4512"},"modified":"2023-08-16T12:31:08","modified_gmt":"2023-08-16T11:31:08","slug":"ctp-013-3rd-person-in-the-room-19-propositions-metaphor-and-simile-and-counselling-philosophy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/counsellingtutor.com\/ctp-013-3rd-person-in-the-room-19-propositions-metaphor-and-simile-and-counselling-philosophy\/","title":{"rendered":"013 \u2013 Third Person in the Room \u2013 19 Propositions 1 \u2013 Simile and Metaphor \u2013 Personal Philosophy in Counselling"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<h1>013 &#8211; Third Person in the Room &#8211; 19 Propositions 1 &#8211; Simile and Metaphor &#8211; Personal Philosophy in Counselling<\/h1>\n\t<div class=\"smart-track-player-container stp-color-006cb5-EEEEEE spp-stp-desktop\" data-uid=\"e8d1c78e\"><\/div><div class=\"spp-shsp-form spp-shsp-form-e8d1c78e\"><\/div>\n\t<a href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/gb\/podcast\/counselling-tutor\/id1080407675\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/counsellingtutor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/12\/subscribe_itunes-button-small.jpg\" alt=\"subscribe_itunes button small\" width=\"144\" height=\"49\"><\/a>\n\t<p>In episode 13 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, Rory Lees-Oakes and Ken Kelly discuss the &#8216;third person in the room&#8217;. &#8216;Theory with Rory&#8217; introduces Carl Rogers&#8217; 19 propositions, and Ken looks at working with imagery. Last, Ken and Rory ask: what is your counselling philosophy?<\/p>\n\t<div id=\"cbox-vODZZySnaq10cn4g\"><\/div>\n\t<!--more-->\n\t<h2>The Third Person in the Room<\/h2>\n\t<p>When is it permissible to have a third person in the room? For example, a client might need an interpreter (when the&nbsp;counsellor and client do not share a language, including sign language). It is vital that&nbsp;clients have the support they need, but&nbsp;interpreters&nbsp;should be professional ones (not friends or relatives). Do make a written note of the identity of any interpreter, and their relationship to the client.<\/p>\n<p>Rory and Ken discuss the implications for contracting and confidentiality, and the importance of clarity in the counsellor&#8217;s language when this is to be interpreted. They also examine what to do if an anxious client wishes to bring a friend, relative or support worker into the first session.<\/p>\n<p>Other forms of the third person in the room are:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>guide dogs &#8211; do remember not to pet these, as they are working dogs<\/li>\n<li>the &#8216;invisible&#8217; third person &#8211; that is, an electronic device, when <a href=\"https:\/\/counsellingtutor.com\/recording-client-sessions-third-person-in-the-room\/\">audio-recording <\/a>client sessions.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\t<h2>Rogers&#8217; 19&nbsp;Propositions 1<\/h2>\n\t<p>The 19 propositions stand alongside the seven stages of process, and the six necessary and sufficient conditions, to form the three pillars of Rogers&#8217; theory of person-centred counselling. The 19 propositions are complex to read and understand, being written in 1950s&#8217; philosophical language. Roy decodes these, making them accessible and comprehensible.<\/p>\n<p>First presented in 1951 in Rogers&#8217; book <em>Client-Centered Therapy<\/em>, the 19 propositions are based on <a href=\"https:\/\/counsellingtutor.com\/007-phenomenology-therapeutic-pace-skill-of-questioning-and-bacp-accredited-courses\/\">phenomenology<\/a>. In this podcast, Rory decodes propositions 1 to 8 (which become incrementally more complex):<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>I make sense of myself, others and my world based on my own consistently changing experience.<\/li>\n<li>My sense of reality is unique, formed out of what I experience, and how I process and understand my experience.<\/li>\n<li>My entire way of being and doing arises out of my personal sense of reality.<\/li>\n<li>Part of my reality is my sense of self.<\/li>\n<li>My sense of self arises from my experiences and perceptions, especially from comparing myself with others, and from the opinions and judgements of others as I perceive them. My sense of self is fluid but includes consistent perceptions. I attach values to these perceptions.<\/li>\n<li>I have an innate impulse to care for myself, heal and grow. This includes seeking to keep myself safe and intact, and to realise my inner potential, becoming who I am capable of being.<\/li>\n<li>You can adequately understand my behaviour only through understanding how I see myself and others in the world.<\/li>\n<li>I behave as I do in order to meet my needs, as I experience and perceive them, and as I experience and perceive reality.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>Rory illustrates each of these with real-life examples.<\/p>\n\t<iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube-nocookie.com\/embed\/sO5vPyWMgXQ?rel=0&amp;showinfo=0\" width=\"420\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe>\n\t<h2>Simile and Metaphor in Counselling<\/h2>\n\t<p>Imagery can be very powerful in counselling. This includes both simile (when we compare things using the word <em>like<\/em> or <em>as<\/em>) and <a href=\"https:\/\/counsellingtutor.com\/counselling-working-with-metaphor\/\">metaphor<\/a> (when we compare things by saying one thing literally <em>is<\/em> another). For example, &#8216;I feel like a caged animal&#8217; is a simile, while &#8216;I have a knot in my stomach&#8217; is a metaphor.<\/p>\n<p>Ken explains where we might see imagery present within our therapeutic relationship with a client. Imagery is a cultural understanding between people using pictorial, evocative language. Imagery in counselling ties into empathy. The client perceives there is a shared understanding, and this can take the therapeutic relationship to a deeper level.<\/p>\n<p>We discuss the dangers of looking at imagery from our own self-concept, and how we should always check our understanding to ensure we are in the client&#8217;s frame of reference.<\/p>\n\t\t<h3>Free Handout Download<\/h3>\t\t\n\t\t\t<p>Carl Rogers&#8217; 19 Propositions Decoded<\/p>\n\t\t\t<a href=\"#cb441d4423\" target=\"_self\" role=\"button\" rel=\"noopener\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\tClick Here to Download Free Handout\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t<h2>Personal Philosophy in Counselling<\/h2>\n\t<p>Each counsellor&#8217;s philosophical views are individual; Rogers observed that the person-centred approach is as varied as the people who practise it. Rory and Ken debate how personal philosophy guides practice, and how this can change over time. If you have a professional website in future, it will be useful to include your personal philosophy, to give potential clients a taste of who you are and what you are offering. A number of quotes by Rogers are given to illustrate the points discussed.<\/p>\n\t<h2>Links and Resources<\/h2>\n\t<p><em>Client-Centered Therapy<\/em> by Carl Rogers (Constable and Company, 1951); <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.co.uk\/Client-Centred-Therapy-Practice-Implications\/dp\/1841198404\/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1469101800&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=client-centered+therapy\">this was reprinted in 2003<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/groups\/472203952972076\/?ref=bookmarks\">Counselling Tutor Facebook group<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>013 &#8211; Third Person in the Room &#8211; 19 Propositions 1 &#8211; Simile and Metaphor &#8211; Personal Philosophy in Counselling In episode 13 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, Rory Lees-Oakes and Ken Kelly discuss the &#8216;third person in the room&#8217;. &#8216;Theory with Rory&#8217; introduces Carl Rogers&#8217; 19 propositions, and Ken looks at working with imagery. 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